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John Huijben 11-07-2011 11:03 AM

Looks insane as always.

Just some food for thought though, are you sure the aluminium intermediate "iron" you've drawn in cad there is strong enough?

Remember, rotor housings want to do this, especially in high hp high boost applications:



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The rotor housings need the strenght of the intermediate and frond and rear plates, or else they would seriously warp.

This is also what causes the rear iron to break on older rear iron's.

Your design doesn't look very strong in this area. The steel inserts don't add strength, and the aluminium part has a lot of cutouts, so that's not very strong either.

Ever thought about making the steel insert a bit larger?, like just a little bit smaller than the outer o-ring groove?

That way you can drill the holes for the engine bolts and dowels in the steel insert, so the steel inserts add strength to the engine.

Tegheim 11-07-2011 02:43 PM

As always YOU do the insane calculations https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

I will think about it while I'm trying to give my billet rotors some work.



This is the start of my 4 billet-rotors https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

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shainiac 11-09-2011 03:03 PM

What oil pump style and front cover pattern do you plan on using?

Tegheim 11-09-2011 03:09 PM

Dry-sump-cover https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

Tegheim 11-11-2011 11:45 AM

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Rotors is on...

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The work for the weekend is over. Everything takes more time then you think. And the fact that I don't work in the CNC-Lathe makes it worse...

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Before cleaning...

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Ohh, was it soo deep?

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Baldy 11-14-2011 07:45 AM

Very nice! I can't wait for more updates on the rotors.

Tegheim 11-15-2011 11:49 AM

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In all this CAD, theory-crap and so on, I have done some backgrounds for my motivation https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

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Just because https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

Tegheim 11-21-2011 02:08 AM

We have done awsome progress this weekend. But we will not show it yet https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

Tegheim 12-08-2011 10:10 AM

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Everything goes according to plan, but everything has its time:)

Meanwhile, the graphic card goes hot in the computer.

Is updating my drawings on the chassis and so on. And when inspiration is short, so make it a nice rendering, so you will be happy again:)



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A good start on a looong weekend...

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If this doesn't work, I think this would be a good bookrest.. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

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Tegheim 12-18-2011 05:52 AM

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Now I've cleaned up after me and takes weekend.

This took a lot longer than I guessed. Then it's always so well with the first, but had probably hoped for smoother processing:)

Has anyway tried to run a finishing the outline today. Is not quite satisfied, however, it does not matter for the function. Has left 0.5mm for further testing:)

To be continued in the Christmas Holidays!

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shainiac 12-18-2011 03:05 PM

Great job! I can't wait to see this thing run!

What are you going to do for the apex seal slots to ensure they don't wear prematurely?

Also, how are you going to seal the side plates to the body of the rotor for the oil?

Tegheim 12-18-2011 11:58 PM

You'll see when I come there. Difficult to explain, but I have a plan https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

Tegheim 12-20-2011 02:17 PM

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Tried a little bit smaller step this face. What do you think about the comp-ratio in the bottom?

Good or silly...?

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Baldy 12-21-2011 07:37 AM

Informative!

JBs93FD 12-23-2011 11:17 AM

amazing stuff your doing here , something i could only dream of acomplishing.

sleeperRX7 12-23-2011 10:42 PM

Any idea of design flaws Mazda may have made and/or you might try to improve or fix? Just wondering if there will be any type of directional finish on the rotors themselves? WIll you be making your own rotor housings? Rock on!

Tegheim 12-24-2011 04:26 AM

The only bad thing with older Mazda Rotors are the tolerance between them.There could be big differens in comp-ratio for example. Then they started to CNC-mill the face, and it got better. The weight should be around 3700grams on this one, and that a little better than 4000-4200gram stock.

No, Rotorhousings feels like a difficult part to make. Maybe center-plate though.

Tegheim 12-28-2011 02:05 PM

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Now finally the production has begun for real ... I had never guessed that it would be so much preparation work on these. Do they look simple, but have been scratching my head once or three times ...

On top of all this, a revision of the CAM program take 5-15minutes of the heaviest pieces.

3st roughing 3D pockets from one direction is about 1500kb large program. Times the third Times two ...

Milling time, we will not even go into. It takes time:)

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jwteknix 12-28-2011 05:13 PM

good pic

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jwteknix 12-29-2011 07:30 PM

sick

banzaitoyota 12-29-2011 08:12 PM

What are your plans for doing the rotor side plates?

banzaitoyota 12-29-2011 08:14 PM

What are your plans for doing the rotor side plates?

banzaitoyota 12-29-2011 08:16 PM

What are your plans for doing the rotor side plates?

Tegheim 12-30-2011 02:42 AM

How do you mean? How they will look like or so?



There will be sideplates i aluminium.


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