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Man.. I cant wait till you can Dowload food..
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hhmmm, let me add my fuel to the fire...
So, I was wondering if it was illegal to tape songs off the radio. So I asked my coworker, who also works at a local radio station. She said that when cassette recorders came to the market, the recording industry freaked out. So they cut a deal that the recording industry would get a fraction of the cost of each recording device. I don't know if this is right, this is just what she told me. Now, couldn't the same thing be done here? Like, it's illegal (screw "right" and "wrong," they're too subjective) to d'load and copy music, but the devices that make this possible are legal. So, could a fraction of the cost of those devices go toward pacifying the RIAA, thereby making d'loading the music legal? (assuming d'loading becomes controlled in some way) and 75Repu, you and me both. |
Here're my thoughts:
1/2 the people on this forum have illegal cars, where illegal is anything you do to a car that messes with the emissions set up. It seems arbitrary that one wouldn't care about violating federal EPA laws, but would care about federal copyright laws. How is modding a street car with a T88 ok because it's fun but d/l'ing music is bad because it's illegal? Just doesn't seem a consistent set of values. |
Originally Posted by Baldy' date='Sep 15 2003, 08:45 AM
hhmmm, let me add my fuel to the fire...
So, I was wondering if it was illegal to tape songs off the radio. So I asked my coworker, who also works at a local radio station. She said that when cassette recorders came to the market, the recording industry freaked out. So they cut a deal that the recording industry would get a fraction of the cost of each recording device. I don't know if this is right, this is just what she told me. Now, couldn't the same thing be done here? Like, it's illegal (screw "right" and "wrong," they're too subjective) to d'load and copy music, but the devices that make this possible are legal. So, could a fraction of the cost of those devices go toward pacifying the RIAA, thereby making d'loading the music legal? (assuming d'loading becomes controlled in some way) and 75Repu, you and me both. simple kazaa p2p stuff, there's no charge, so no profit for the riaa to feed off of, thats the ONLY reason they're pursuing this so much. kevin. |
Originally Posted by teknics' date='Sep 15 2003, 02:37 PM
[quote name='Baldy' date='Sep 15 2003, 08:45 AM'] hhmmm, let me add my fuel to the fire...
So, I was wondering if it was illegal to tape songs off the radio. So I asked my coworker, who also works at a local radio station. She said that when cassette recorders came to the market, the recording industry freaked out. So they cut a deal that the recording industry would get a fraction of the cost of each recording device. I don't know if this is right, this is just what she told me. Now, couldn't the same thing be done here? Like, it's illegal (screw "right" and "wrong," they're too subjective) to d'load and copy music, but the devices that make this possible are legal. So, could a fraction of the cost of those devices go toward pacifying the RIAA, thereby making d'loading the music legal? (assuming d'loading becomes controlled in some way) and 75Repu, you and me both. simple kazaa p2p stuff, there's no charge, so no profit for the riaa to feed off of, thats the ONLY reason they're pursuing this so much. kevin. [/quote] I like apple's idea, at least you know you're getting good quality. But at 99 cents a song, it costs about as much as buying a CD off the shelf! |
Originally Posted by Baldy' date='Sep 15 2003, 01:39 PM
[quote name='teknics' date='Sep 15 2003, 02:37 PM'] [quote name='Baldy' date='Sep 15 2003, 08:45 AM'] hhmmm, let me add my fuel to the fire...
So, I was wondering if it was illegal to tape songs off the radio. So I asked my coworker, who also works at a local radio station. She said that when cassette recorders came to the market, the recording industry freaked out. So they cut a deal that the recording industry would get a fraction of the cost of each recording device. I don't know if this is right, this is just what she told me. Now, couldn't the same thing be done here? Like, it's illegal (screw "right" and "wrong," they're too subjective) to d'load and copy music, but the devices that make this possible are legal. So, could a fraction of the cost of those devices go toward pacifying the RIAA, thereby making d'loading the music legal? (assuming d'loading becomes controlled in some way) and 75Repu, you and me both. simple kazaa p2p stuff, there's no charge, so no profit for the riaa to feed off of, thats the ONLY reason they're pursuing this so much. kevin. [/quote] I like apple's idea, at least you know you're getting good quality. But at 99 cents a song, it costs about as much as buying a CD off the shelf! [/quote] again, thats the idea. you figure 15-20 songs per cd, thats $15-$20 to download a whole cd. so the riaa gets the same amout as if you bought the cd itself. kevin. |
**** RIAA....... arrrrgggggg matey's, a pirates life for me.
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Originally Posted by Rotarydragon' date='Sep 14 2003, 02:44 PM
Ahhhh the joys of trying to justify illegal behavior, never ceases to amaze me.
It's that the "joys never CEASE", not, "the joys never ceaseS". So here's your sentence as you should have written it: Ahhhh, the joys of trying to justify illegal behavior never cease to amaze me. --------- Yeah I know, but I needed to pick on somebody. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif |
Originally Posted by Srce' date='Sep 15 2003, 02:58 PM
[quote name='Rotarydragon' date='Sep 14 2003, 02:44 PM'] Ahhhh the joys of trying to justify illegal behavior, never ceases to amaze me.
It's that the "joys never CEASE", not, "the joys never ceaseS". So here's your sentence as you should have written it: Ahhhh, the joys of trying to justify illegal behavior never cease to amaze me. --------- Yeah I know, but I needed to pick on somebody. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif [/quote] Why would joys amaze him? I think it should be more like: "Ahhhh, the joys of trying to justify illegal behavior, the excuses never cease to amaze me." or something like that...I'm bored... |
Originally Posted by Srce' date='Sep 15 2003, 01:58 PM
[quote name='Rotarydragon' date='Sep 14 2003, 02:44 PM'] Ahhhh the joys of trying to justify illegal behavior, never ceases to amaze me.
It's that the "joys never CEASE", not, "the joys never ceaseS". So here's your sentence as you should have written it: Ahhhh, the joys of trying to justify illegal behavior never cease to amaze me. --------- Yeah I know, but I needed to pick on somebody. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif [/quote] or maybe he incorrectly pluralized the word joy and made it joys. if it was "the joy never ceases" it would be correct. eat that, beech ass. kevin. |
FREE MUSIC FOR EVERYONE!!! Who cares if d/l is legal or not, the execs that are sueing everyone break the law every day, by speeding, illegally parking, driving on expired tags. You guys have got this stuff completely wrong, it has absolutley nothing to do with music, it's all about the green. If the execs were still making their ferrari payments on time, nobody would give two shits.
I say **** em, they can't sue us all, and there are still ~ amount of songs downloaded for every law suit, going on, so they are fighting a losing battle. They call us crooks when they've been stealing musicians souls for that past hundred years, and not even compensating 99% of them enough to live w/o a part time job. Anyone defending these scum should be kicked in the nuts. It's all about the green. |
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I signed.
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I's signed dat biatch.
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I only read the first page but heres the thing about the artists being "hurt"
“I didn’t ask them to protect me, and I don’t want their protection.” – Disturbed frontman David Draiman reacts to the RIAA taking legal action against people who’ve been downloading songs. The problem is that unless you're a mega mega quad platinum billionaire like Celine Dion, you really don't make very much money off of record sales, you make all of your money touring. I even read an article written by a small, not well known musician who usually ends up OWING the record company money at the end of each month for record sales. point made. |
Originally Posted by Lacan91' date='Sep 14 2003, 09:59 PM
i wish people would stop going around trying to force belief systems on me. never fails when something is declared "illegal", there's someone telling you you're a bad person because you don't follow the law. i'm pretty sure everyone on this board breaks the law on a daily basis (speed limits...) but thats a victimless crime right? so its ok....
the only person i want telling me whats wrong and right is the person that has done absolute good and absolute evil in there lifetime. thats the only person i believe really knows the difference, since i've never met this person yet. i'll have to decide for myself about myself. i have a hard enough time living my life, how can i tell someone else how to live theirs? the only people that really have a problem with file sharing are RIAA and extremists who see fit to tell you, you're bad and be like them cause they're good. if more people in this world would think for themselves and not regurgitate thoughts drilled into their heads by others. i'm pretty sure a majority of people would be much happier. in the end the music companies will give in and start selling music cheaper, people will still download music, the "Do Good" extremists will still try to force their beleifs on us, criminals will still do bad stuff, and all us rotary folks will still break the speed limit on a daily basis in this half-sane but crazy world of ours. Loi Belief system? You're an idiot. It's the law you jackass, not a belief system unless of course you want to do away with law in which case you need to be the first in line. Don't do the crime unless you want to do the time. I speed, I accept the risk of getting busted for it and paying a ticket. You download illegal music, you get busted, don't come crying about it and don't try to justify it. It's illegal. Period. Get over it. Dolt. |
Most times I write as english is spoken, or at least the main stream form of english. A pet peeve of mine is people that put z's where s's go and and what not. d3wd sp3@k.
Anyways, I'm thinking the sentance would stand against my english teacher. I'll spring it on 'em tomorrow and find out. She has NO sense of humour. |
So if a friend of mine wants to borrow a CD from me I shouldn't let him? Or if I'm playing a CD at my house and a friend comes over, should I turn it off? All because he didn't buy the copyright to that CD? **** that! The songs I've downloaded are all songs that I had on CD at one point but were stolen out of my car. Or were once on a tape and now I want them on CD. Like I would spend another $20 on something I've already paid for once. I'm a musician as well, and personally, I don't like record companies. Sure they can give you money and improve your lifestyle but all the while ******* you from behind. Musicians always get screwed by companies. I'd rather play with my band all day and barely make enough money to pay my bills then work for a money hungry recording company.
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I think I saw something where only people who share music have any chance of getting in trouble. Something like you can download all the music you ever wanted so long as you do not let anyone download it from you.
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thats right as far as i know
they are busting ppl that are making music avalible for other ppl to download not DLing music themselves |
Well if I remember correctly it costs like 11 cents I think to actually make a cd and burn music on to it. What you are paying for when you buy a cd is recording studio time, editting time, etc. But they are still making a killing off of cd's right now. And I do believe that the price of cd's should go down. But unfortunately I can't make them and until someone comes up with an intellegent way to reduce cd prices I'll keep my mouth shut.
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