My condolaences to a fellow shipmate who lost his life today aboard the USS San Francisco.



http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/01/09/nuclear.s...rine/index.html

 

 

How did they run the sub aground? You'd think that with today's technology something like that would be impossible.

 

even our second hand diesel subs we got for cheap as **** off the english government because they are worn-out and outdated dont run aground, someone mustve fell asleep at the wheel.

 

You fail to realize that it's all built by the LOWEST BIDDER.... i was on a $18 million dollar helicopter that we had to beat on the fuel control everytime to get it to start..... LOWEST BIDDER!

 

So, was anyone paying attn to the sonar/depth finder, was there a gay orgy aboard? How in the hell could that have happened? It's little things like this that are causing me to lose faith in America. No offense, but this used to be an earnest, dedicated, hard working country. If you still have those values, this does'nt apply. If you're in a position of athourity, do your damn job!!!!

 

Obviously alot of you do not understand the problems of navigation when underwater.



I do not know the details, none of us do. BUT I have been stationed on Subs my whole naval career.



Charts are not infallible, navigation fixes aren't always accurate. Sailors are human and make mistakes. There have been several grounding incidents:



1977(?) Uss Ray SSN 653: Mediterain . Hit an underground sea mount. Numerous broken bone and bruises. Damage to sub" Millions. Replaced Sonar Dome and Array. To the day she was decommisioned her seawater piping systems were sprung, making maintenance a bitch



1986(?) Nathaniel Greene, Irish Sea. Bad Navigation Fix, Bad Chart, Isolated Depth Gage (Valve Line Up error) Dove to 400 feet in water thet was 90 feet deep. Minor Injuries. Sub scrapped due to START and Damage

 

Hats off to your service and no offence, but that appears to be a routine stop. I know the women there are pretty hot, but DAMN! I just get tired of hearing about deaths that occur by means of carelessness! It happens in every day life, This is just a well covered incident.

 

lets thank god it wasnt a reactor problem. the russians had that problem on one of their subs last year? Everyone died?

 

With all of the seismic activity 2 weeks ago being only about 750 miles or so from where they ran aground...... possibly a plate shift causing changes in their underwater charting that is on hand ?? I have no clue how close to the bottom the subs normally run or anything like that...



just speculation. <shrug>