Lots Of Horsepower In Cars These Days
09-14-2005, 03:09 PM
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Well, one thing is that the HP rating on the new cars are fly wheel HP...on our old clunkers we get actual WHP...Take the Z06 for instance..they say 400hp...But in all reality it's works out to be about 330-340 after an 18% drivetrain loss. So still my lighter, 412rwhp, clunker breats the pants off it. In a straight line and in the twisties...And Although I am getting really close to the cost of one with my FD, I'd say the only real attractive thing of a new car to me is a warranty.
09-14-2005, 03:58 PM
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[quote name='BrandonDrecksage' date='Sep 14 2005, 11:46 AM']are you kidding me? is the most comfortable car i've ever driven...every other car hurts my back and legs. have you drivin a 98-02 camaro before? no to mention..you can pick up a decent one for 10-15k.
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i worked at a chevy dealer for 3 years ... from 1997 into 2000.. i drove in all, probably several hundred z28's, ss's, 6 bangers, pace editions, etc... They are by far the least comfortable car I have driven.. It is not very driver friendly, cheap controls, boring layout... it's like they ran out of ideas from 1994...
a decent camaro is much cheaper than 10-15k now isn't it? i remember the resale being terrible.
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i worked at a chevy dealer for 3 years ... from 1997 into 2000.. i drove in all, probably several hundred z28's, ss's, 6 bangers, pace editions, etc... They are by far the least comfortable car I have driven.. It is not very driver friendly, cheap controls, boring layout... it's like they ran out of ideas from 1994...
a decent camaro is much cheaper than 10-15k now isn't it? i remember the resale being terrible.
09-14-2005, 06:54 PM
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[quote name='94touring' date='Sep 14 2005, 11:00 AM']I wouldn't mind one brand new car as a reliable and comforatable econobox. But if thats all I had I would get bored really quick.
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who said econobox?
Im saying a car that is a fun to drive, powerfull, and comfortable
I was saying for conversation sake that I was thinking of a TC for a SHOP car, meaning back and forth to work and to give estimates, that kind of junk, if it gets hit or scratched or I load the trunk with garbage who cares.
I do like the 400hp GTO though
whole point being that people spend double and triple what thier car is worth to get 400hp when 400hp isnt **** these days. 90% of those cars end up the same too- wrecked and/or parted out.
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who said econobox?
Im saying a car that is a fun to drive, powerfull, and comfortable
I was saying for conversation sake that I was thinking of a TC for a SHOP car, meaning back and forth to work and to give estimates, that kind of junk, if it gets hit or scratched or I load the trunk with garbage who cares.
I do like the 400hp GTO though
whole point being that people spend double and triple what thier car is worth to get 400hp when 400hp isnt **** these days. 90% of those cars end up the same too- wrecked and/or parted out.
09-14-2005, 08:00 PM
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[quote name='Dramon_Killer' date='Sep 14 2005, 01:56 PM']I am slowly getting onto the family car thing too.
I'm actually pretty impressed by the new STIs and Evos.
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hunny are you expecting?
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I'm actually pretty impressed by the new STIs and Evos.
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hunny are you expecting?
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09-14-2005, 09:08 PM
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[quote name='Rob x-7' date='Sep 14 2005, 07:02 AM']messing with a old car is one thing, I like that I can get into my car and drive it anywhere, I know that once I mess with it Im probably going to lose some confidence in it being reliable.
Im saying keep the old car nice and driveable, but go out a rape a new car with the warranty and still have comfort and reliability.
I did have a dream the night before I was looking at the GTO which is what got me thinking, so its wierd Vosko would mention that.
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its an old man car......so i immediately thought of you
Im saying keep the old car nice and driveable, but go out a rape a new car with the warranty and still have comfort and reliability.
I did have a dream the night before I was looking at the GTO which is what got me thinking, so its wierd Vosko would mention that.
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its an old man car......so i immediately thought of you
09-14-2005, 11:26 PM
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[quote name='Rob x-7' date='Sep 14 2005, 03:54 PM']who said econobox?
Im saying a car that is a fun to drive, powerfull, and comfortable
I was saying for conversation sake that I was thinking of a TC for a SHOP car, meaning back and forth to work and to give estimates, that kind of junk, if it gets hit or scratched or I load the trunk with garbage who cares.
I do like the 400hp GTO though
whole point being that people spend double and triple what thier car is worth to get 400hp when 400hp isnt **** these days. 90% of those cars end up the same too- wrecked and/or parted out.
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Back and forth to work..and hit or scratch who cares....isn't that that what an econobox is?
But yeah I see what you're saying about something fun, powerfull and comforatable and new.
Im saying a car that is a fun to drive, powerfull, and comfortable
I was saying for conversation sake that I was thinking of a TC for a SHOP car, meaning back and forth to work and to give estimates, that kind of junk, if it gets hit or scratched or I load the trunk with garbage who cares.
I do like the 400hp GTO though
whole point being that people spend double and triple what thier car is worth to get 400hp when 400hp isnt **** these days. 90% of those cars end up the same too- wrecked and/or parted out.
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Back and forth to work..and hit or scratch who cares....isn't that that what an econobox is?
But yeah I see what you're saying about something fun, powerfull and comforatable and new.
09-14-2005, 11:57 PM
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I for one really like the older F-bodys. You just gotta make sure its a '98+ with the Ls1 and bug eyed headlights. The only that bothers me is their size, and the fact you cant see the ******* hood.
09-15-2005, 07:11 PM
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[quote name='boxrs4sale' date='Sep 14 2005, 03:58 PM']i worked at a chevy dealer for 3 years ... from 1997 into 2000.. i drove in all, probably several hundred z28's, ss's, 6 bangers, pace editions, etc... They are by far the least comfortable car I have driven.. It is not very driver friendly, cheap controls, boring layout... it's like they ran out of ideas from 1994...
a decent camaro is much cheaper than 10-15k now isn't it? i remember the resale being terrible.
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it depends what you buy..i bought a fully load(t-tops, slp lid and exhaust, "SS" option, premium sound, leather and some other bs) 01 ss with 50k on it for 15k. and i got a good price...for the ss..most people spend more than that. a z28 can be had for a couple grand less..maybe two. i wish i waited and got a z28..its basically the same car. only complaint that i do have with the car is that the sound system sucks.
not very driver friendly and borng are two different things..i like to think of the gauges, layout, and controls to be simple and not distracting.. when i'm actually getting on it..i don't even look down..i jsut grab the next gear when the shfit lgiht goes off thats in the ac vent. and like i said before..everyone who has been in my car has said its one of the most comfortable cars that they've been in..i guess mine is special.
a decent camaro is much cheaper than 10-15k now isn't it? i remember the resale being terrible.
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it depends what you buy..i bought a fully load(t-tops, slp lid and exhaust, "SS" option, premium sound, leather and some other bs) 01 ss with 50k on it for 15k. and i got a good price...for the ss..most people spend more than that. a z28 can be had for a couple grand less..maybe two. i wish i waited and got a z28..its basically the same car. only complaint that i do have with the car is that the sound system sucks.
not very driver friendly and borng are two different things..i like to think of the gauges, layout, and controls to be simple and not distracting.. when i'm actually getting on it..i don't even look down..i jsut grab the next gear when the shfit lgiht goes off thats in the ac vent. and like i said before..everyone who has been in my car has said its one of the most comfortable cars that they've been in..i guess mine is special.