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Old 08-18-2003, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by mazdadrifter' date='Aug 17 2003, 05:06 PM
Also when is the last time you guys have spent 24 hours without electricity??? If you think we went to war quick over oil, just have someone threaten our power grid. We'd break out the nukes.
this winter we had a medium storm and our power was out for 3 days. we've been neglecting things like the power grid for decades, its a wonder it works as well as it does



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There is a simple answer for the cause of this failure, and subsequent failures: Portions of the grid are entirely obsolete. They operate on outdated technology and under extreme demand.



Picture it like this: Your car came with an alternator. The alternator puts out 60 amps, which is sufficient to run the car and all its systems. Then you go out and buy 35 Neon rods, 10 15" subwoofers, and 15,000 watts of amplifier. All you did to help the power surges was to install a 1-Farad capacitor. It's really just a matter of time before the coils in the alternator burn to a little crisp.
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Originally Posted by Sinful7' date='Aug 18 2003, 10:53 AM
There is a simple answer for the cause of this failure, and subsequent failures: Portions of the grid are entirely obsolete. They operate on outdated technology and under extreme demand.



Picture it like this: Your car came with an alternator. The alternator puts out 60 amps, which is sufficient to run the car and all its systems. Then you go out and buy 35 Neon rods, 10 15" subwoofers, and 15,000 watts of amplifier. All you did to help the power surges was to install a 1-Farad capacitor. It's really just a matter of time before the coils in the alternator burn to a little crisp.
heres a better example, you buy a new fc and it charges the battery fine. skip forward 12years and you have a bigger alternator and it still has a hard time chargine the battery because all the connexions are loose



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maybe some combination thereof - it's increased load without increased transmission and generation. The system is running at nearly full capacity, and we need increased generation capacity, and increased transmission capacity to get all the power where it needs to be.



Also, think about when places like Niagra Falls Generating Station were built.
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It didn't help the situation in Ohio, cuz teh nuclear power plant outside toledo, Davis Bessie is down for repairs, which put more strain on the grid over here.
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Damn Canadians are taking too much water from the niagra river!!!







BLAME CANADA!!!!!











































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North American needs to start building more nuclear power plants. I love it when the politician says we should buy more wind turbines. Too bad one Wind turbine outputs 1/2 a megawatt.



A Typical Nuclear Power plant gives out 2500 megawatts. That is a helluva lot of wind turbines if u ask me.
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Originally Posted by Cheers!' date='Aug 19 2003, 08:24 AM
North American needs to start building more nuclear power plants. I love it when the politician says we should buy more wind turbines. Too bad one Wind turbine outputs 1/2 a megawatt.



A Typical Nuclear Power plant gives out 2500 megawatts. That is a helluva lot of wind turbines if u ask me.
Where do you propose that they store the waste? Canada I suppose? Lots of empty space up there...
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hey, no one said nuclear power was the perfect solution. There is no perfect solution.
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Originally Posted by Cheers!' date='Aug 19 2003, 08:01 AM
hey, no one said nuclear power was the perfect solution. There is no perfect solution.
i got one! follow me on this. americans are fat right? and excercise bikes can make power right? well we can hire illegal immagants to ride the bikes so we can have cold beer and hot steak! its as close to perfect as um michael jackson?



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