Drift racing
03-04-2002 | 09:23 PM
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Check out this video: http://gallery.rx7club.com/images/videos/DriftGroup.mov
After you see it your question will be answered.
Another: http://gallery.rx7club.com/images/videos/FCdrift.mov
After you see it your question will be answered.
Another: http://gallery.rx7club.com/images/videos/FCdrift.mov
03-04-2002 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 13BAce' date='Mar. 04 2002,18:23
Check out this video: http://gallery.rx7club.com/images/videos/DriftGroup.mov
After you see it your question will be answered.
Another: http://gallery.rx7club.com/images/videos/FCdrift.mov
After you see it your question will be answered.
Another: http://gallery.rx7club.com/images/videos/FCdrift.mov
03-04-2002 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by dysthymia' date='Mar. 04 2002,22:08
[quote name='13BAce' date='Mar. 04 2002,18:23']Check out this video: http://gallery.rx7club.com/images/videos/DriftGroup.mov
After you see it your question will be answered.
Another: http://gallery.rx7club.com/images/videos/FCdrift.mov
After you see it your question will be answered.
Another: http://gallery.rx7club.com/images/videos/FCdrift.mov
Sorry, that's the only format I've ever seen them in.
03-05-2002 | 12:31 AM
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Well, I just watched the first video, after FINALLY getting both the software and the video to download. I must say though, I really don't get it. :dontgetit:
Why would you want to spend an entire race without traction? It seems like an awful waste of tires. Even so, it looks like it takes a healthy serving of both skill and ***** to be able to do it.
Why would you want to spend an entire race without traction? It seems like an awful waste of tires. Even so, it looks like it takes a healthy serving of both skill and ***** to be able to do it.
03-05-2002 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by dysthymia' date='Mar. 05 2002,00:31
Well, I just watched the first video, after FINALLY getting both the software and the video to download. I must say though, I really don't get it. :dontgetit:
Why would you want to spend an entire race without traction? It seems like an awful waste of tires. Even so, it looks like it takes a healthy serving of both skill and ***** to be able to do it.
Why would you want to spend an entire race without traction? It seems like an awful waste of tires. Even so, it looks like it takes a healthy serving of both skill and ***** to be able to do it.
03-05-2002 | 09:49 AM
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I seen some "Drifting videos "from Japan thats some serious ****...its like a street rally race..but with serious turns,
The one I saw Looked like a Civic hatchback Type R [White]and an Intergra Going up a small road in the moutains ..big enuff for only one car...Taking winding roads....Bumper to Bumper at high speedall you see from the in-car cam was fast sterring, Braking ...and quealing the **** out of the tires.....It looks fun ....but not for where I live.......
The one I saw Looked like a Civic hatchback Type R [White]and an Intergra Going up a small road in the moutains ..big enuff for only one car...Taking winding roads....Bumper to Bumper at high speedall you see from the in-car cam was fast sterring, Braking ...and quealing the **** out of the tires.....It looks fun ....but not for where I live.......
03-05-2002 | 10:01 AM
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the thing is...they do have traction. if they didnt, they would loose it. its a way of kinda keepin the momentum and speed of the car throughout the turn and having it ready to exit the turn so you can accelerate outta tha turn faster...im dont know how to drift...would love to learn, but in miami there is nowhere to even try it..lol but anyways that how i kinda understand. Theres more to it, just read up...
03-07-2002 | 11:44 PM
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I guess you can say the most basic way of putting drifting into words is - trying to get your car almost completely sideways while navigating a turn.
Like many sports, there are different ways at how people look at it. Mainly, all that participate are dedicated due to the fact that it takes practice and patience to get results that you want.
Drifting, especially in japan (where it originated) is meant to be a fun sport. If youve ever seen their cars, many are banged up and dented, they dont care if that happens because all they'll do is find a replacement part that fits and their off drifting again.
For the ones that are more dedicated to the sport, they like to take their cars out to tracks. The tracks they use are usually old race tracks that have many turns and hairpins.
These drivers produce a series of slides and counter slides to successfully navigate a section of twisting road while never regaining full traction.
The techniques for drifting are relatively basic, the skill comes in stringing a series of drifts seamlessly together, an experienced competitor can usually manage up to six turns before regaining traction. To instigate a drift a drifter will approach the first bend in second gear with the clutch down. With the engine revving at around 5000 rpm, the drifter will start wide then turn in sharply, at the same time engaging the clutch and inducing a slide. By careful adjustment of both the accelerator and the steering, the drifter reaches the second bend with out regaining traction or spinning out. The process is then applied again, but with a sharp turn of the wheel to get the car going around the opposing bend. This is where most spin outs occur, and with drifters traveling enmass there's little room for mistakes. The above techniques works for all rear drive cars, only a varying of the revs is required dependent on model and setup. To drift a front wheel drive car is much harder, involving liberal use of the handbrake to influence rear wheel breakaway. Only a few hard-core drifters use front wheel drive cars, but mainly for the challenge as the experience isn't much fun.
The drifters tend to stick to a proven range of cars. The most long-standing of which is the old Toyota Levin/Trueno (Corolla coupe), mainly because of it's old school rear wheel drive and low cost. Toyota's new Altezza (Lexus IS200) is seen as the future king to this crown, especially once prices drop. Nissan has the largest contingent, again due to their rear wheel drive nature, and comprises the Silvia S13, S14, S15, 180SX, Skyline Gts-t, Cefiro, Laurel and occasionally the rare Sil-Eighty. Mazda's previous generation RX-7 also makes the odd appearance
Due to popularity, drifting has made its way over to the states and has captured the eyes of many young drivers.
Groups such as Battle Swing in southern californa have been participating in this sport.
And yes, it is true that your tires are usually shredded, thats why you always have to have spare tires to use for commuting if you plan on drifting often. Also you would need a decent suspension upgrade if you dont want your shocks to blow.
Sorry if that was a bit long, i couldnt put it into fewer words.
Most of the information i have given you was from a old website that had an article about drifting in japan. I cant seem to find it any more so i had to do most of it from memory.
Hope that gets you started>
like they mentioned, if you ever look up initial D
(a japanese anime about drifting)
you'll get a clearer picture.
>>rotary enthusiasts that wanted to put his 7cents in
those videos are pretty neat
Like many sports, there are different ways at how people look at it. Mainly, all that participate are dedicated due to the fact that it takes practice and patience to get results that you want.
Drifting, especially in japan (where it originated) is meant to be a fun sport. If youve ever seen their cars, many are banged up and dented, they dont care if that happens because all they'll do is find a replacement part that fits and their off drifting again.
For the ones that are more dedicated to the sport, they like to take their cars out to tracks. The tracks they use are usually old race tracks that have many turns and hairpins.
These drivers produce a series of slides and counter slides to successfully navigate a section of twisting road while never regaining full traction.
The techniques for drifting are relatively basic, the skill comes in stringing a series of drifts seamlessly together, an experienced competitor can usually manage up to six turns before regaining traction. To instigate a drift a drifter will approach the first bend in second gear with the clutch down. With the engine revving at around 5000 rpm, the drifter will start wide then turn in sharply, at the same time engaging the clutch and inducing a slide. By careful adjustment of both the accelerator and the steering, the drifter reaches the second bend with out regaining traction or spinning out. The process is then applied again, but with a sharp turn of the wheel to get the car going around the opposing bend. This is where most spin outs occur, and with drifters traveling enmass there's little room for mistakes. The above techniques works for all rear drive cars, only a varying of the revs is required dependent on model and setup. To drift a front wheel drive car is much harder, involving liberal use of the handbrake to influence rear wheel breakaway. Only a few hard-core drifters use front wheel drive cars, but mainly for the challenge as the experience isn't much fun.
The drifters tend to stick to a proven range of cars. The most long-standing of which is the old Toyota Levin/Trueno (Corolla coupe), mainly because of it's old school rear wheel drive and low cost. Toyota's new Altezza (Lexus IS200) is seen as the future king to this crown, especially once prices drop. Nissan has the largest contingent, again due to their rear wheel drive nature, and comprises the Silvia S13, S14, S15, 180SX, Skyline Gts-t, Cefiro, Laurel and occasionally the rare Sil-Eighty. Mazda's previous generation RX-7 also makes the odd appearance
Due to popularity, drifting has made its way over to the states and has captured the eyes of many young drivers.
Groups such as Battle Swing in southern californa have been participating in this sport.
And yes, it is true that your tires are usually shredded, thats why you always have to have spare tires to use for commuting if you plan on drifting often. Also you would need a decent suspension upgrade if you dont want your shocks to blow.
Sorry if that was a bit long, i couldnt put it into fewer words.
Most of the information i have given you was from a old website that had an article about drifting in japan. I cant seem to find it any more so i had to do most of it from memory.
Hope that gets you started>
like they mentioned, if you ever look up initial D
(a japanese anime about drifting)
you'll get a clearer picture.
>>rotary enthusiasts that wanted to put his 7cents in
those videos are pretty neat
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