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Old 04-16-2003 | 05:35 PM
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Ok... You should know my situation by now... I was on Lightning in a world of thunder... and did some reading on smoking.



In the list of choices for causes of bad smoking... He lists the OMP. If the OMP fails, it can pump WAY too much oil into the rotor housing... This is listed iin the troubleshooting BEFORE the oil seals in the engine..



Is there any way to test the damn OMP? I'd rather not remove it permanantly, but will replace it if necessary.



I've ruled out the turbos as being the cause of the oil in the combustion... And there are no bad lines.



Thanks for ANY ideas!!
Old 04-16-2003 | 05:38 PM
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yes, they can go bad. go the the "evil" forum and PM a guy named paw140......he is a hundred miles south of me here in MS and his went ou t a couple of months ago....he replaced it, but i think now, his motor ppopped, but no relation.



anyways.....ask hiim what his symptoms were.....if i am not mistaken, if the pump fails, you will get a CEL, did you get a code? if so, it might be the case, but i also know that the CEL on a MOP will cause the car to go into limp mode....



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Old 04-16-2003 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by r_xplicit' date='Apr 16 2003, 03:38 PM
yes, they can go bad. go the the "evil" forum and PM a guy named paw140......he is a hundred miles south of me here in MS and his went ou t a couple of months ago....he replaced it, but i think now, his motor ppopped, but no relation.



anyways.....ask hiim what his symptoms were.....if i am not mistaken, if the pump fails, you will get a CEL, did you get a code? if so, it might be the case, but i also know that the CEL on a MOP will cause the car to go into limp mode....



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Thanks Lou! I can't check the codes now, as everything is yanked... I was preparing to pull the motor... Still might do it anyway, but I guess we'll see! Thanks again!
Old 04-16-2003 | 09:02 PM
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Just remove it, block it off, and premix 100:1 ratio when normal.. and 2:100 when racing =] bye bye prolem.. MAKE SURE TO PREMIX THOUGH!
Old 04-16-2003 | 10:05 PM
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dont you gotta do the premix thing when you have haltech?
Old 04-16-2003 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by neoamd' date='Apr 16 2003, 07:02 PM
Just remove it, block it off, and premix 100:1 ratio when normal.. and 2:100 when racing =] bye bye prolem.. MAKE SURE TO PREMIX THOUGH!
I thought about it.. But I dunno if it's even the problem yet...



Streetking thinks I should re-check the turbos... Maybe I'll do that.. I dunno.
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just for a second opinion, i do not think that the MOP is your problem either.....eeeiiii
Old 04-16-2003 | 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by r_xplicit' date='Apr 16 2003, 09:35 PM
just for a second opinion, i do not think that the MOP is your problem either.....eeeiiii
Me either.... Never went in Limp, and never got a CEL either. Maybe I'll look over those turbos again... Goddammit. Well, I guess it's better them than the motor.
Old 04-16-2003 | 11:50 PM
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well, it could be a failing seal too. you know.....when the springs on an apex seal start to give out, smoking is somewhat charachteristic, because of the inability to keep the chambers seperated....
Old 04-17-2003 | 12:01 AM
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Yeah...





All I know is: It was oil. In large abounts. It was a fast drip, to an almost trickle coming from the exhaust manifold. LOTS of oil smoke from the exhaust...





If the seals in the turbos were bad... It would blow oil into the INTAKE (IE: Y-pipe, IC) track as well, right?



An oil seal in the engine would just be a bunch of oil getting burned in the chambers, and not blown in to the intake right?



Thanks... I know I ask alot of questions... Just don't wanna fix something that's not broke!



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