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Old 06-17-2003 | 01:03 AM
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Hey guys, now its my turn to ask the swap questions, don't worry though, I know how to use the search function.



The only thing I need a bit of clarification on is about the front cover and oil pan, because we don't have GSL-SE's over here, we don't have a gen 1 13B engine. Can I use my s3 12a front cover and sump?



I searched and found one topic that said no, but I just wanna check. are our 12a's different to yours?
Old 06-17-2003 | 01:08 AM
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I hear it works but theres something different about the OMP
Old 06-17-2003 | 01:10 AM
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you can use your 12a cover, or the best one is a turbo 12a front cover it already has the drain. the oil pan is a sticky wicket though, you could get one from the us (i think they are like $50), try to order the usa number, or make something



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Old 06-17-2003 | 02:04 AM
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I might have to search the ausrotary forum for some answers. =(

Nothings ever easy.



I've got 2 12a's, one blown (I forgot to tell you guys that story) and one good (on my engine stand). I was hoping not to pull apart the good one, but I think thats the best one to use. (I think our s3 was the 12at engine minus the T.)



Whats the deal with the OMP? Should I just forget about it and run premix?
Old 06-17-2003 | 02:07 AM
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ooh, just found this info thanks to directfreaks list of links ...



Any year 12A front engine cover or 13B GSL-SE if you can

find someone who will part with it witch ever cover you decide

to go with you need to modify it for Turbo oil return.



if using 12A cover you will need to use 12A OMP and run lines to

manifold oil injectors. I ran only the lines going directly into the

rotor housings.



looks like I can do this.



no mention of the sump though.... hmm
Old 06-17-2003 | 04:02 AM
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Found some more info (thanks geniusracing.com), seems like the US sump is the way to go.
Old 06-17-2003 | 08:09 AM
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you also need, but not necessary, a 13B front cross member(i think thats the name) its a few mm difference, but i dunno if it makes that much difference.. i just found out i had a 12A one with my 13B...



as far as the oil pan, moroso makes one. i think it fits first gens...
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Originally Posted by treceb' date='Jun 17 2003, 04:09 AM
you also need, but not necessary, a 13B front cross member(i think thats the name) its a few mm difference, but i dunno if it makes that much difference.. i just found out i had a 12A one with my 13B...



as far as the oil pan, moroso makes one. i think it fits first gens...
The moroso pan is for the first gens.The 13b is 10mm longer so you will need to slot the holes accordingly.Also you will need to keep your FB dipstick as it is shorter than the T2 and works with the proper pan for the swap.
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Yeah, I was reading that.

Apparently the best way to go is either slot the old one or buy one from RB.



Hey Luis, have you tapped your front cover yet for the oil return? Pics?



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Old 06-17-2003 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by drifter' date='Jun 17 2003, 05:38 PM
Yeah, I was reading that.

Apparently the best way to go is either slot the old one or buy one from RB.



Hey Luis, have you tapped your front cover yet for the oil return? Pics?



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on the later ones theres a round hole near the metering pump, on a 12at its drilled and tappped for the drain, on the na's its not



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